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    bad brake feel

    I just removed all the rubber brake lines and replaced them with Earl's braided stainless lines. I then bled the brakes, going through the sequence of wheels 4 times, and using almost 2 quarts of brake fluid. before I started, the pedal had about half an inch of freeplay, than another inch to inch and a half of brake application before it would stop. now it sinks almost 2 inches, then gets somewhat firm. Is there a way to move the brake engagement up the pedal stroke?

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      #3
      Sounds like it's just not done bleeding yet. I don't think moving the "brake engagement" is going to help you at all.

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        #4
        what sequence did you use?

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          #5
          Besides the sequence, what method did you use to bleed the brakes? Do you have speed bleeders?

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            #6
            Could it be the dreaded master cylinder problem? If it's the original MC, and you pushed the pedal too far while bleeding... you may have busted a seal and need to replace it. (or rebuild it)

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              #7
              Master cylinder was replaced last summer, no speed bleeders - a friend pumped the pedal and I worked the bleeder screws. sequence was right rear-left front-left rear-right front. I could bleed some more if it would help, are these systems harder to get all the air out of than most?

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                #8
                Although that is the Helm method/sequence for bleeding, try it again using RR/LR/RF/LF

                Also, what fluid are you trying to use? I had a tough time getting the Valvoline Synpower synthetic fluid to bleed right. I use Castrol GTLMA.

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                  #9
                  I used synpower. I think the oil company I used to work at sells GTLMA (they did when I was there at least), should I go get some of that and try to flush out all the synpower?

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                    #10
                    Somtimes bubbles in the system can move arounf after your bleed, bleed your brakes again, and this time whack your calipers with a rubber mallet to loosen up and get rid of ALL the air. See if that helps...

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                      #11
                      Are there any chains that sell GTLMA? place I used to work doesn't carry Castrol products anymore.

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                        #12
                        Pep Boys sells GTLMA. For troubleshooting, you can use any "normal" DOT3 fluid. I just avoid the Synpower one because of my bad experience with it.

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                          #13
                          will speed bleeders make it harder to bleed well? I am having trouble getting free time at the same time as anyone else to help bleed normally.

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