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    i bought the NOS octane booster at kragen and the guy told me that i shouldn't use the whole bottle. he said that i should just use 1/3 of it let the car run and and next time i fill up put the rest in. i was just gonna dump the whole in thing at once. Is that ok? I know this aint really a big deal but i just want to make sure i wont do any harm if i put the whole thing in my tank. i've never use this before so i dont know much about this. thanks.

    #2
    it wont do much. it claims to make power, i really didnt see much difference, i believe higher grade pump gas is more effective than octane booster.


    87 grade gas + octane boost = 87.999999 grade gas hahaha


    and using a higher octane then recommended in a stock honda motor will make it run crappy.


    theres some insight, dont spend money on octane boost unless you need it.

    HTH

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      #3
      If you are using lower octane fuel (lower than 93) than there's should definitely be no problem. Octane boosters only raise by one or two points (if that many), so it would be like using higher quality fuel.

      If you are already using 93 octane fuel, who knows.... I've never had a problem using other brand boosters with 93 octane. I have always just dumped it all in (when I use it) and have been fine so far.

      As far as long term problems, maybe one of the shop guys on here can answer that one.

      Do people 'break in' their N2O systems before that first 55 shot? Seems like that would be more of an issue than breaking in octane booster

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        #4
        Originally posted by 2067739
        As far as long term problems, maybe one of the shop guys on here can answer that one.

        no long term problems except the extra build up of carbon.


        are you guys using vtec motors? or LS motors.

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          #5
          Hey, I thought I was first to respond :p

          As you can see, I agree with math labs.

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            #6
            LS for me.

            I don't usually use booster, but sometimes I get the hankering for it right before going to the track (or on impulse buy).

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              #7
              haha werd!

              anyways, higher compression motors need higher octane, but lower compression motors like our stock internal honda motors run best on what theyre recommened on.



              but check this out, i talked to a few honda mechanics and a master tech at honda, guy says he uses 87 octane in a TSX, he said, 'so long as you dont push it to a high rpm, you wont have any problems' he also mentioned that the ecu accounts for the lower octane and retards timing. something like that... of course 91+ octane is recommened for optimum performance, lower octane with easy driving should be fine too.



              personal experience:

              first time i went to the track, i filled up with a 1/4 tank of 91 octane... i was disappointed, i was backfiring and stuff, i ran a best time of 15.98.

              next time i went to the track i used 87 (thank God i knew better), broke out with 15.68 bone stock. just with a exedy clutch.

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                #8
                Thanks for the response guys. i know it wont do much for my motor but i just wanted to try it. i was more concern of the side effects of it but you guys pretty much answered that question. thanks y'all. PEACE.

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                  #9
                  I mix 5 gallons of 100 octane unleaded and fill the rest with 91 when I head for the hills. If its a long day, I'll take a 2 gallon jug of it with me.

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                    #10
                    Trick will deliver a 55 gal drum to your house... all you need is a hand crank pump and about $350

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                      #11
                      Octane boost =

                      Trick =

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                        #12
                        here is the gas card/credit application... seems as though trick has stop delivery, but you can still pick it up in person, I have a 55 gal drum dolly and all. oh and if you have a water heater, better think about build a shed. you can use this card for race gas by any manufacturer.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by JaySR
                          ithe guy told me that i shouldn't use the whole bottle. he said that i should just use 1/3 of it let the car run and and next time i fill up put the rest in.
                          like NOS octane booster is all that potent?
                          i've put the shit in my tank and it didn't run any different on my b16. like someone said it only raises the octane 10pts which is like going from 93 to 94 if that. i read every bottle of that crap at autozone and they all said that.

                          one time i got some lucas gas treatment because the car had been sitting for a while and i thought the gas would be bad... when i was walking out to my car, they guy that sold it to me said "thats good stuff there. just pour it in at the pump, then fill up. you'll notice a big difference in power and acceleration in a day or two"
                          i said "really!!" and got in my car... i only got it because i had old gas and thought it would help in that aspect, i didnt get it for power.

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                            #14
                            $350 for 55 gallons?

                            Thats more than what I pay for 100 octane at the pump.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Archon
                              $350 for 55 gallons?

                              Thats more than what I pay for 100 octane at the pump.
                              5-6 bucks a gallon right? that was a delivered price to

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                                #16
                                the way regular gas prices are going, it is quickly becoming cost effective to run race gas

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                                  #17
                                  I pay about $5/gallon

                                  I figured it would be in the $4-5 range since you're buying in bulk. It would be funny to roll down to the Unocal with a 55G drum and "fill 'er up"

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                                    #18
                                    Sheeet man, they hand you a drum. Comes packaged that way, I think they try and dink you if you make them open one up and take a measly 12 gal. Heck you could get with 4 of your friends and pop for a drum or two and all roll away with a tank of high oct funness. But storing one is a bitch unless you have a shed that is away from all buildings, or a business that can keep it

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